51 odpowiedzi w tym temacie

[budo_krzyst]

E, Gubrin, nie przesadzajmy, krótkotrwała dieta warzywna w klimacie śródziemnomorskim raczej nikomu nie zaszkodzi. Pewnie jakby próbowali taką zastosować siedząc w styczniu w Chanty-Mansyjsk to wyglądałoby to troszkę inaczej
Problem w tym, że jest to żaden dowód na dobroczynność takiej diety, choć skuteczna do zrzucania paru kilo jest na pewno. Sam przerabiałem podobną na południu Francji przez 2,5 tygodnia, tyle, że ja się żywiłem głównie winogronami (były najtańsze).

[budo_gubrin]

E, Gubrin, nie przesadzajmy, krótkotrwała dieta warzywna w klimacie śródziemnomorskim raczej nikomu nie zaszkodzi. Pewnie jakby próbowali taką zastosować siedząc w styczniu w Chanty-Mansyjsk to wyglądałoby to troszkę inaczej
Problem w tym, że jest to żaden dowód na dobroczynność takiej diety, choć skuteczna do zrzucania paru kilo jest na pewno. Sam przerabiałem podobną na południu Francji przez 2,5 tygodnia, tyle, że ja się żywiłem głównie winogronami (były najtańsze).

Ja nie mówię, że ta dieta mu zaszkodziła bo była stosowana krótki okres czasu. Mówię o tym, że badania mogły by wykazać ubytki wielu różnych składników, które eliminuje ją jako "super dietę" na dłuższy okres czasu.

Gubrin

[budo_krzyst]

Jak każda monodietę, ale to chyba dość oczywiste. W końcu nie bez kozery mówi się o dobrej zrównowazonej diecie.

[budo_g-man]

Ameno

Gubrin, mówimy o dietach do zrzucenia paru kilogramów tłuszczu a nie na całe życie. Chyba źle mnie zrozumiałeś.

[budo_jerz]

Krótko trwałe diety (poza zrzucaniem na zawody i tym podobne) nie mają moim zdaniem żadnego sensu. Jeśli chcemy zmienić swoją sylwetkę musimy zmienić swoje nawyki żywieniowe.

[budo_g-man]

Nigdy nie zbijałeś wagi przed zawodami, wakacjami itp. ?? Po to są takie diety. Ponadto w większości przypadków wykształcają dobre nawyki np. jedzenia więcej warzyw czy ograniczania spożycia produktów z mąką, cukrów prostych, przypraw itd. Dobre są o tyle, że służą do zbicia tłuszczu a nie wody i mają stosunkowo małe skutki uboczne. Ponadto prawie zawsze oczyszczają organizm z różnych toksyn i złogów, które w normalnym żywieniu przez wiele dni zatruwają organizm.

[budo_gubrin]

Dobre są o tyle, że służą do zbicia tłuszczu a nie wody i mają stosunkowo małe skutki uboczne.

A to ciekawe ... Woda zawsze ci zejdzie jako pierwsza, więc jak zrzuciłeś 3 kilo to licz się z tym, że tłuszczu poszło maks 1 kilo ... A prawdopodobnie mniej biorąc pod uwagę ubytki mięśni oraz "porządne sranie" (te oczyszczenie o którym wspominałeś)...

Mowa oczywiście o "pierwszych" zrzuconych 3 kilo, ale sami mówicie, że te diety to na krótki czas.

Gubrin

[budo_g-man]

Podstawą w takich dietach jest picie dużej ilości wody, więc tutaj raczej wiele nie stracisz. Z drugiej strony to, ile wysrasz zależy od Twojej aktualnej diety. Dużo hamburgerów - dużo srania

[budo_novocaine]

[link widoczny dla zalogowanych Użytkowników]
jakby z t-nation skopiowane.
(btw, po kilkukrotnym otworzeniu strony trzeba sie juz rejestrowac; ja nie mam juz dostepu do tego artykulu, jakby ktos mogl wkleic byloby git.)

The theory that you should not eat in the evening gained popularity a few years ago when some nutritionists claimed eating at night results in weight gain because you don’t do any physical activity afterwards to burn off the calories – they will be stored as fat while you sleep. In fact, it doesn’t really matter when you eat so long as you consume the right number of calories over a day. Food is digested and metabolised in the same way, whatever time it’s eaten.

do tego ta teorie wziela sie tez stad, ze wiekszosc ludzi wieczorem je przed telewizorem. a co sie je przed telewizorem ogladajac szklana pulapke 3 po raz siodmy?

[budo_jerz]

10 Reasons Why You Don't Lose Fat
It’s not as simple as peeling off a fat suit – so here’s how to shed those pounds, the right wayText: Michael Donlevy / Photos: Barry Downard May 2007


1 You only do cardio training

Cardio burns fat, weights build muscle. That’s the simplistic, misguided premise upon which countless men have built their exercise regimes. ‘You can’t put them together,’ these men say. ‘It’s like putting Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard in the same midfield and expecting England to win the World Cup. Ridiculous.’

In fact, weight training is an important element of any fat-loss fitness plan. Firstly, weight training itself can burn over 400 calories per hour (running burns upwards of 600) and it also increases your resting metabolic rate (RMR).

Your RMR is basically the number of calories that your body burns when you’re sat on your backside watching Family Fortunes (although – and it may just be us – Vernon Kay does make us want to get up off the sofa and find a punch bag). So, lift weights and you’ll burn more calories for longer after you’ve stopped exercising.

On top of that, any weight-loss eating plan means you will lose muscle as well as fat. If you’re lifting weights to gain muscle, a greater proportion of your weight loss will come from fat.

Weight training will also make you stronger and this will, in turn, improve your cardio performance. So if you are a runner, strengthening your legs by doing squats and lunges in the gym will help you run faster – and therefore burn more calories. Now, where did you leave that gym card?

2 You’ve heard that low-intensity training burns more fat

This is probably because you’ve heard of something known as the ‘fat-burning zone’, which sounds like an instant cure for that wobble around your middle. It’s not. The theory is that relatively low-intensity exercise, where you work out at around 60 per cent of your maximum heart rate (MHR), burns more fat than high-intensity exercise, where you work out at around 80 per cent of your MHR. (To calculate your MHR, subtract your age from 220.) The truth is that low-intensity exercise burns a greater proportion of fat, but high-intensity exercise burns more calories overall and raises your RMR for longer. This makes it a more effective way of shedding weight.

Here’s the maths: if you walk for 60 minutes, you burn around 270 calories, of which 60 per cent comes from fat. That’s 160 fat calories you’ve just burned from low-intensity exercise. If you run for the same length of time, only 40 per cent of the calories you burn comes from fat – but you burn around 680 calories in total, which means you’ve burned 270 calories of fat.

The lesson? Don’t plod along on the treadmill for an hour in the belief the fat will fall off – you can achieve the same results in less time (and get fitter into the bargain). Introduce some high-intensity cardio workouts into your regime and try interval training, where you mix short bursts of maximum effort (up to 90 per cent of MHR) with lower-intensity recovery periods.

3 You’ve been dieting

You diet, therefore you lose weight, right? Well, yes, that’s true – up to a point. The problem is that diets are, by their very nature, restrictive and therefore unsustainable. Ultimately it doesn’t matter whether you do Atkins, SlimFast or the Holistic Standing On Your Head Eating Nothing But Figs Diet – any weight-loss plan operates by limiting what you eat, whether it’s by slashing calories, removing entire food groups or forcing you to live on milk shakes.

In the short term, of course, the weight falls off, you can tighten your belt an extra notch and your shirt buttons no longer pop. ‘Great,’ you think, ‘I’ve lost weight, so I can go back to eating normally again.’ And before you know it the weight has piled back on and you’re back where you started. This is known as ‘weight cycling’. The real secret to losing weight is not to give up fast food and beer for two weeks. It’s to make long-term, sustainable changes to your diet. The weight will take longer to come off, but if you do it this way it will stay off.

4 You eat ‘low-fat’ meals

Supermarkets aren’t stupid – that’s why they’re so damned big and wealthy. A few years ago, faced with the accusation that ready meals were fattening, they began introducing ‘low-fat’ versions in an attempt to make us all think we were being really healthy.

Unfortunately, ‘low fat’ is not the same as ‘low calorie’. To lose fat without neutralising taste, the manufacturers use extra salt, sugar and additives. So eating a low-fat ready meal doesn’t mean you’re not taking in unnecessary, useless calories.

It helps if you remember that, for example, the Sainsbury’s Be Good To Yourself range should actually be called Be Slightly Better To Yourself Than Eating The Full-Fat Range But Still Don’t Expect To See The Weight Fall Off range. To be fair, pressure resulting from rising obesity levels has prompted supermarkets to take further steps to reduce salt content in ready meals, but there is no question that you will be healthier and more likely to lose weight if you make the effort to cook your own meals using fresh ingredients.

Consider: when was the last time you saw a ‘low-fat’ banana? ‘Healthy living’ broccoli? ‘Light’ pasta? No. Natural, unprocessed food is precisely that – natural – so it doesn’t need to have bad stuff taken out of it and a fancy label slapped on it. That’s why it’s good for you.

5 You don’t eat any fat

Fat makes you fat. Not eating fat makes you less fat. Eat no fat and eventually you won’t have any fat at all. Right? If only life were that simple.

There’s no doubt that fat is the most calorific of the nutrients we eat. Fat contains nine calories per gram, whereas carbohydrates and protein contain four and even alcohol contains seven. And the saturated fats present in processed foods such as biscuits, cakes and sweets, as well as the junk food we cram down our sozzled throats on Friday nights, will cause weight gain and clog your arteries into the bargain.

But not all fat is bad. The unsaturated fats found in oily fish, nuts and pulses are good for your heart and cholesterol levels and studies suggest they help burn fat because they assist in transporting oxygen to the body’s tissues. So don’t dodge fat altogether because omitting an entire food group is little more than a fad diet – and it’s bound to end in failure when you get bored of it after three weeks. Instead, ensure you eat a balanced diet, of which between 20 and 30 per cent of your intake comes from healthy fats. It won’t affect your long-term weight loss, but
it will affect your health for the better.

The real key to losing weight is to cut calories, rather than stop eating fat. The average man consumes 2,000-2,500 calories a day, depending on height and weight, but can survive perfectly adequately on 1,500. You also need to calculate how many calories you burn each day.

First you need to work out your RMR (remember point 1?). Multiply your bodyweight in kilos by 29. Then add the number of calories you burn through exercise (the average man might burn 250-300 calories through 30 minutes of cardio training or 200 calories for 30 minutes of intensive weight training) to give you your grand total. One pound (or half a kilo) of fat is equivalent to 3,500 calories, so if you cut your intake by 500 calories per day you will lose a pound a week. Simple as that. Just remember you need to eat to fuel your workouts, so you may have to up your calorie intake on the days you do plan to exercise.

6 You have coffee for breakfast

Coffee, that is, and nothing else. The chances are you think you don’t have time for breakfast and that you’re saving up calories for later by not eating until lunchtime. But this will not help you burn fat. The best tactic for losing weight is to eat little and often. Aim to eat a combination of meals and snacks between four and six times a day at times that suit you, depending on your schedule. You should also aim to eat foods with a low glycaemic index (GI) score (see our 1,500 calorie menu for advice). The carbohydrate in these foods is digested slowly, which means they fuel your body with a steady, constant supply of energy, thus avoiding the blood sugar crashes that send you to the biscuit tin.

Fibre is important, too – it slows down the digestion process, which means you feel fuller for longer, and has a low GI. Fibre is, of course, present in the wholegrains and wholemeal bread that make up many breakfast options.

7 You don’t eat after 8pm

The theory that you should not eat in the evening gained popularity a few years ago when some nutritionists claimed eating at night results in weight gain because you don’t do any physical activity afterwards to burn off the calories – they will be stored as fat while you sleep. In fact, it doesn’t really matter when you eat so long as you consume the right number of calories over a day. Food is digested and metabolised in the same way, whatever time it’s eaten.

Perhaps this tactic seems to work because most of what we eat at night is comfort food – it’s the classic time to slump in front of the TV and nibble on crisps or chocolates. How often have you found yourself overeating carrot sticks? Equally, if you set yourself a cut-off time of 8pm the temptation is to overeat before you reach that point, so you may have a larger dinner in an attempt to stave off hunger pangs later on, especially if you’ve been to the gym after work and your energy and protein levels need replenishing. Even worse, there will be times when you shatter the rule by devouring a bumper pack of Kettle Chips at 11pm. That’s the trouble with rules – the more you have and the stricter they are, the more likely you are to break them.

Allow yourself an evening snack if you want one, but factor it into your daily calorie allowance and try to make sure it’s a healthy, low-GI food such as nuts, pulses or muesli that will stave off hunger pangs until the morning. The steady release of insulin into your bloodstream is more likely to result in a good night’s sleep than if you either gorge on sugary, high-GI snacks or lie there with your stomach rumbling. It’s also a good time to cram in an extra portion of fruit. Apples, oranges, strawberries and grapefruit are all relatively low GI, although to be honest fruit is so good for you it doesn’t
matter when you eat it.

8 You do endless sit-ups

Did you know that for every 100 sit-ups you do, you lose ten pounds of fat? No you didn’t, because we made it up. But the way some people insist on crunching up and down for hours on end, you’d think this basic exercise was a miracle fat-loss technique.

It’s not that sit-ups are bad for you, but you would have to do 250,000 of them to burn one pound of fat. The problem is that it’s hard to add any extra resistance to a sit-up, so it’s virtually impossible to increase the effort required to do one, ten or 100 of them. Your body simply adapts to them.

The other point to note is that you cannot ‘spot burn’ fat from one part of your body. You lose weight evenly from all over, so the places with the greatest amount of fat will be the last to slim.

We’ve already explained that mixing cardio and weight training will shed fat, but it’s worth reiterating. The resistance element of a weights workout burns far more calories than the repetitive motion of a sit-up. And if you introduce some other abs exercises to your workout, you may find that once you’ve lost that belly you have a six-pack lurking underneath. See our Abs School (p98) every month for tips.

9 You blame your genes

Genetics give us a shedload of excuses, including metabolism, ‘big bones’ and an underactive thyroid. In fact, only around one per cent of people have a fault in their DNA – a hormone, glandular or chromosomal disorder – that means their metabolism does not function normally. Being overweight is more about habit and learned behaviour. If you’re overweight, the chances are that your parents are, too. But don’t assume this is genetic – it’s far more likely that you have inherited their eating habits and lifestyle.

Your genes do have a certain influence on your figure – for example, the body shape scientists call ‘endomorph’ is more prone to collecting weight around the abdomen – but they don’t make you overweight in the first place. ‘Underactive thyroid’, meanwhile, is a load of codswallop. If you are aware you have an underactive thyroid your GP will have put you on medication to counter it, so it’s no excuse for stuffing your face with cakes.

Remember that being overweight is about what you eat, not the DNA that made you. Chances are you eat more than you realise, which leads us on to…

10 You don’t keep track of what you eat

You may think you’re eating healthily, only to discover you haven’t lost any weight when you step on the scales. Maybe you’ve forgotten that sneaky biscuit that you had with your morning coffee or you’ve discounted last night’s ice cream on the basis that it was ‘low fat’, and the ten pints of Kronenbourg you drank last weekend don’t count because, well, it was the weekend and you deserved a treat. It’s hardly surprising. Research has shown that most people who are attempting to lose weight underestimate how much they eat.

The way around this is to keep a food diary. If the truth about what you eat is there in black and white, you’ll be less likely to sneak in sugary, high-calorie treats. You should also buy a pocket calorie counter from any good bookshop to tell you precisely how many calories you’re consuming. In a surprisingly short time you’ll know the calorie content of your favourite foods off the top of your head and it won’t seem like such a chore.

Now you’re ready to start losing weight. How many calories you need to do that depends on your body composition, exercise regime and metabolism, but once you start writing your intake down you’ll find it easier to reach your natural level. And we’ll be here every month to help you stay there.

[budo_angmoh]

do tego ta teorie wziela sie tez stad, ze wiekszosc ludzi wieczorem je przed telewizorem. a co sie je przed telewizorem ogladajac szklana pulapke 3 po raz siodmy?

Ja się niedawno spotkałem z innym wytłumaczeniem które wydało mi się sensowne. Chodziło o to, że jak się idzie spać po jedzonku to to jedzonko zalega w jelitach bo tzw. "bowel movement" jest mniejszy niż normalnie. I przez to przedłużone zaleganie zwiększa się ryzyko raka jelit.

Mi się wydaje to tłumaczenie sensowne no ale ja nie specjalista. No i sorka, ale nie jestem w stanie podać źródła w tej chwili.

[budo_novocaine]

do tego ta teorie wziela sie tez stad, ze wiekszosc ludzi wieczorem je przed telewizorem. a co sie je przed telewizorem ogladajac szklana pulapke 3 po raz siodmy?

Ja się niedawno spotkałem z innym wytłumaczeniem które wydało mi się sensowne. Chodziło o to, że jak się idzie spać po jedzonku to to jedzonko zalega w jelitach bo tzw. "bowel movement" jest mniejszy niż normalnie. I przez to przedłużone zaleganie zwiększa się ryzyko raka jelit.

Mi się wydaje to tłumaczenie sensowne no ale ja nie specjalista. No i sorka, ale nie jestem w stanie podać źródła w tej chwili.

a bullshit. wlasnie czytam o psychologii ewolucyjnej, i na wiele rzeczy zaczynam patrzec z punktu widzenia ewolucjii. ludzie, ktorzy dostawaliby raka jelit o jedzenie przed snem (a ciekawe kiedy mogli jesc, skoro caly dzien zbierali/polowali?) dawno by wygineli.
to wytlumaczenie moze i byloby sensowne, gdyby bylo wytlumaczone.