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Witam :)
Na poczatek chce zaznaczyc ze chcialbym sie dowiedziec wiecej o Bujinkanie ale nie mam pojecia pod jakie style to podpiac... Jako ze widzialem jakis temat o Ninjutsu tutaj a 3 z 9 "sztuk" Bujinkanu pochodza od Ninjutsu dlatego wlepiam to tutaj.

Szukalem w sieci informacji na temat Bujinkanu ale dokopalem sie jedynie do stron klubowych ktore zawieraja jedynie kodeks nauczania poszczegolnych szkol.
Wiem ze Bujinkan sklada sie z :

- 6 elementow "sztuk samuraja" (to info ze stron), czyli:
Koto Ryu
Gyokko Ryu
Takagi Yoshin Ryu
Kukishinden Ryu
Shindenfudo Ryu
Kumogakure Ryu

- 3 elementów ninjutsu, czyli:
Togakure Ryu
Gikan Ryu
Gyokushin Ryu

Nie kojarze zadnego z wymienionych elementow - chcialbym sie od Was dowiedziec czegos wiecej o Bujinkanie - czy walka jest toczona w krotkim daleki dystansie, czy nacisk jest polozony na bronie czy walke wrecz, jak odnieslibyscie sie do porownania np Shotokan/Bujinkan albo WingChun/Bujinkan.. nie znalazlem praktycznie N I C o tym stylu wiec nie wiem jakie pytania zadac - bedze wdzieczny za kazde informacje.

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Bujinkan.....w europie jest większy nacisk na walkę (randori),w u.s.a jest to bardziej bez osobowe ....pisz na priv albo na e mail
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TYGRYS!! napisz tutaj!! prosze

chetnie poczytalbym conieco..
mam szkoleniowe cd sihana richarda(?) van donk'a...
z bujinkan dojo.. a co to dokladnie jest to nie wiem.. podobne do jj. chetnie liznalbym cos z historii tej szkoly
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Bujinkan łączy w sobie 9 tradycji .Z czego 3 to Ninjutsu ,pozostałe to raczej "samurajskie sztuki walki"( :lol: ale napisałem).
kilka stronek ....ale określ co chcesz wiedzieć bedzie łatwiej.
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History of the Bujinkan

The "Ninja" were in fact samurai warriors who practiced an unusual pattern of warfare during a time in Japan's history when civil unrest, and unrelenting turmoil swept the country. Constant struggles for land and power forced the men from Iga province to fight for survival in their own province.
Distinguished Chinese influences such as Sun Tzu's "Art of War", taught them military intelligence, with emphasis in deception of the enemy. Yamabushi, mountain warrior priests, taught them a blend of Buddhist and Shinto beliefs with an element of Chinese Prophesy and magic. From these mystic teachings, they learned to move freely without being perceived, and how to work their will without action.
Daisuke Nishina, of the Togakure family, suffered heavy losses in battle and was forced into the mountains of Iga province, where he met the warrior priest Kain Doshi. Daisuke emerged from the fog enshrouded mountains as a master of its method of accomplishment. Thus was born the legend of the Togakure Ninja (late 1100's AD).
Togakure Ninjutsu is the only known form of Ninjutsu that has survived the years. This school of Ninjutsu remains a key tradition of the Bujinkan. Bujinkan means "Nine Schools" or "Nine Traditions". The nine traditions are what the Bujinkan is based on. Three of the traditions are specialized as Ninjutsu schools, where some are more specialized in espionage, information gathering, tactics etc., rather than combative techniques. The other six are more specialized in the combative techniques (although most of them have Ninpo elements in them). The nine traditions of the Bujinkan are as follows:

- Togakure Ryu Ninpo (founded in the late 1100's AD by Daisuke Nishina)
- Gyokko Ryu Koshijitsu (founded in the mid 1100's by Tozawa Hakuunsai)
- Kukishiden Ryu Happo Hikenjutsu (founded in the mid 1300's by Izumo
Kanja Yoshitero)
- Koto Ryu Koppojutsu (founded in the mid 1500's by Sakagami Taro
Kunishige)
- Gikan Ryu Koppo (founded in the mid 1500 by Uryu Hangan Gikanbo)
- Shiden Fudo Ryu Dakentaijutsu (founded in the early 1600's by Takagi
Oriuemon Shigenobu)
- Gyokushin Ryu Ninpo (founded in the mid 1500's by Sasaki Goemon
Teruyoshi)
- Kumogakure Ryu Ninjutsu (founded in the mid 1500's by Iga Heinaizaemon
No Jo Ienaga)
- Takagi Yoshin Ryu Jutaijutsu (founded in the early 1600's by Takagi
Oriuemon Shigenobu)

Currently, the Soke (grandmaster) of the Bujinkan is Dr. Masaaki Hatsumi. He has been handed the original scrolls, information, and training for each of the 9 schools. The scrolls have been passed down through the generations, and have been unaltered. All of the principles of each school have been tested on the battlefield. Hatsumi sensei is the 34th, 28th, 28th, 18th, 15th, 26th, 21st, 14th, and 17th Soke of the 9 schools listed above respectively.

Some info on Takagi Yoshin Ryu:
In 1569 during the Yeiroku era (1568-1579) in the Funagata Yama mountain area of Miyagi, a mountain priest from the Abe family, called Unryu (Cloud dragon), was an expert in the Shuriken, Bojutsu, and Taijutsu from the "Amatsu Tatara Rinpo Hiden Makimono". The Amatasu Tatara scroll was kept by the Abe, Nakatomi, Otomo, and Monobe families. The "Dai Nippon Bugei Ryu Ha" gives Unryu's name as Sounryu. He was a wandering Taoist monk, living in Rikuzen Funagawa, not far from Sanroku mountain. Unryu taught his system with the Yari called "Sessho Hiden no Jutsu", to Itto
Ki-i (aka Ito Sukesada), another famous martial artist of his time.

Ito Sukesada was a Samurai from Katakura Kojuro, in Fukushima province. He taught the techniques that would be the starting point of the future Takgi Yoshin Ryu to Takagi Oriuemon Shigenobu, a young Samurai from Tohoku-Shiraishi Han (in the northern part of Japan). Shigenobu was 16 years old when he started training, and was later given the Menkyo Kaiden when he was just 20 years old. Shigenobu was born 2nd
April 1625 (another source says 2nd Jan 1635), and died 7th October1711.
Shigenobu's father was called Sanzaemon Inatobi, also a retainer of the Katakura Kojuro the Daimyo of the Tohoku-Shiraishi han. Shigenobu was his second son. Sanzaemon was attacked in the middle of the night in a dark alley, and died a violent death. At this time Shigenobu was called Umon, but he changed his name at the time of his fathers death to Takagi Oriuemon Shigenobu. Shigenobu avenged his fathers death, remembering the advise that his father had earlier given him, 'A willow is flexible, but a high tree is breakable."
He revised, and improved, the techniques that he had learned, and put them together into what was known then as "Takagi Yoshin Ryu", naming it after himself.
The Yagyu Ryu were in the 1600's, the sword instructors to the Tokugawa Shogunate. It is also possible that they were involved in some form of Ninjutsu activities. Takagi
arranged several duels with them. He fought a match against the famous Yagu Tajima no Kami, but lost the "match" (more likely an actual battle). Takagi realized that he needed more training. Takagi retreated to the wilderness of Mt. Hiei, the mountain headquarters of the Tendai sect of Buddhism for 37 days. Here he came to realized the importance of the opponent's eyes. He also realized that before he could win, he had to upset the opponent's way of moving and thinking. But if the opponent was too strong, this omote
(outer) approach might not work, so to compliment it, he needed an ura (inner) approach.
The ura approach meant upsetting his own way of moving and thinking and using the unexpected move to take the opponent with him as he fell. In 1645 Takagi Oriemon Shigenobu studied these traditions along with Tori Kumi techniques from Sumo, and developed 22 articles of Omote Taijutsu, 24 articles of Ura Taijutsu, and 22 articles of Sabaki. These insights and techniques would allow him to remeet Yagu. Oriuemon then
arranged a rematch with Tajima. As they faced each other, Oriuemon raised his sword so that it pointed directly at Tajima's eyes, because of this Tajima knew that he could not win and that they would both die if they fought each other. They declared the match a draw without crossing swords. Oriuemon at this time was only 23 years old.

One of Oriuemon's teachers, Danemon Muto was from the yari school (sojutsu) called Kyochi Ryu. Muto was a retainer of Yoshihide in Hidachi in Deba (Northern
Japan).

The school passed onto Takagi Umannosuke Shigetada. Umannosuke started to study under Oriuemon in 1671 (Kanbun 11), when he too was just 16 years old, adding
many new techniques from the Jujutsu school "Takauchi Ryu". He, however, taught the school as "Takagi Yoshin Ryu Dakentaijutsu", Bojutsu, Sojutsu, Naginatajutsu, and Senban Nage. In 1695, he was recognized by the Emperor as a high class martial artist.

He also studied Zen with a monk called Gudo-washo, from the Chuzen temple. Some of the Zen attitudes were also introduced to the teachings of the school. Umannosuke traveled extensively throughout Japan teaching his system of Dakentaijutsu. He died 26
April 1746.

Takagi Gennoshin Higeshige was the son of Umannosuke. He taught in Hyogo province. He was good at the Dakentaijutsu, but changed the name again to Takgi Yoshin Ryu Jujutsu.

Ohkuni Kihei Shigenobu was a Samurai, and an expert from the Kukishinden Ryu. He and Gennoshin fought a small contest, to test each others ability. The taijutsu of the Takagi Yoshin Ryu was superior to the Kukishinden Ryu Taijutsu, but the Kukishinden Ryu Bojutsu was superior to that of Takagi Yoshin Ryu. Afterwards, Ohkuni was invited
to stay, and teach his system to the Takagi Yoshin Ryu. These two Soke rearranged the two Ryu, making Takagi Yoshin Ryu just Taijutsu, and the Kukishinden took the Bojutsu. Gennoshin became ill, and died on 2nd October 1702. He asked Ohkuni, just before his death to continue the teaching in the new way that they had created together. Ohkuni then renamed the schools Hon Tai Takagi Yoshin Ryu, and Hon Tai Kukishinden Ryu. Later, Ohkuni was to split the schools up again. The Takagi Yoshin Ryu, still retain some of its bojutsu.


October 1841, a ronin " Yagi Ikogoro" of Akoh opened a Hon Tai Takagi Yoshin Ryuu dojo in Akashi. Yagi passed on the Ryu to three students giving each the Menkyo Kaiden. There were
Ishitani Takeoi, Ishibashi, and Fujita Togoro. Fujita taught Takagi Yoshin Ryu, and passed the school onto Mizuta Yoshitaro, who in turn taught Takamatsu.

When Yagi gave out the menkyo kaiden, he did so to only two students. These were Ishibashi, and Mizuta. He did not give one to Ishitani. One day as Yagi was walking in the Okura valley, he was attacked by Ishitani, who was carrying a drawn katana. Yagi ran to a nearby house, removed a piece of wood from it, and threw it at Ishitani, so that
he could make his escape. The next night Ishitani arrived for training as if nothing had happened the night before. Yagi took him to a room at the rear of the dojo, and gave him
the Menkyo Kaiden scrolls of the Takagi Yoshin Ryu. As they left the room, Yagi said to him "Who would give you your license if I was dead". Ishitani went on to open seven
Takagi Yoshin Ryu dojo's in Japan. All of these he was a regular visitor, to aid in the teaching. Once when he was in Osaka he was attacked by two Sumo men called
"Konishiki", and "Yatsuka". They held him down, and invited him to escape. He did so by attacking their legs. The form of Takagi Yoshin ryu jutaijutsu practiced within the
Bujinkan stems from the teachings of Yagi Ikogoro, the thirteenth headmaster. Yagi died around 1898.

It is not known if Ishibashi opened a Dojo, but Takamatsu once fought a licensed student of his by the name of "Demon of Okurantani village". Ishitani taught Hon Tai
Takagi Yoshin Ryu and Hon Tai Kukishinden Ryu. He passed these two schools onto his
son, who also became Soke of Shinden Tatara Ryu. He learned this from Akiyama Yotaro. One of the reasons he went to the Shinden Tatara Ryu, which is supposed to have
strong links with the Kukishinden Ryu, was because Ishitani Masutaro had eloped with one of his father's mistresses. His father sent him the Menkyo Kaiden to the Takagi
Yoshin Ryu and Kukishinden Ryu via Akiyama. Ishitani taught the schools to Takamatsu
between 1903 - 1905.

When Ishitani Matsutaro, the son of Ishitani Takeoi, died in the arms of Takamatsu,
he instructed Takamatsu to send a copy of the scrolls of the Takagi Yoshin Ryu to
Kadono Hachiheita, who opened a dojo under the name of Hon Tai Yoshin Ryu.

The Hon Tai Yoshin Ryu, has a syllabus that is based on Jujutsu, Bojutsu, Hanbo,
Kodachi, Tanto, and Toritsuke (rope binding). The present Soke is, Soke Inoue
Tsuyoshi, 9th Dan.

The transmission of the Takagi Yoshin Ryu scrolls from Mizuta to Takamatsu took
place on an auspicious day in the 8th month Meiji 40 (August 1908). The transmission
of the Takagi Yoshin Ryu scrolls from Takamatsu Toshitsugu to Hatsumi Masaaki took
place on a lucky in the 5th month Showa 33 (May 1959).

The Takagi Yoshin Ryu takes it's techniques further than those of Judo and Aikido.
When the techniques are applied it is made as difficult as possible for the assailant to
escape by rolling and breakfalling. This style of Jujutsu comes from within the building
unlike other styles which originated outdoors. Therefore, the techniques result with the
opponent being thrown, locked, or held close to the body instead of throwing him a
distance away from you.

* In Takagi Yoshin Ryu, you are trained to use uke's own weight and momentum against
him.
* In the Takagi Yoshin ryu look at the eyes, and use speed.
* Ishizuka Sensei says, Takagi Yoshin ryu has no specific kamae. In order to learn proper maai the student should experiment with different situations i.e. shizen no kamae for both opponents or
shizen & ichimonji etc.

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hehe.. co chce wiedziec...
nie wiem nic... nawet nie wiem o co zapytac...
interesuje mnie raczej techniczna strona tej szkoly.. w czym sie specjalizowali, jakie techniki preferowali... no i jakie bronie mieli w swoim arsenale :)

cos na styl ksiazki "ninja.niewidzialni zabojcy"
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Dzieki Tygrys - fajne linki... ale szczerze mowiac to im wiecej sie dowiaduje tym bardziej jestem skolowany.Z tych stron ktore podales dowiedzialem sie ze faktycznie Bujinkan sklada sie z 6 sztuk samurajskich i 3 pochodzenia ninjutsu.. z kolei ninjutsu sklada sie z 18 sztuk - zadna z tych 18 sztuk nie jest elementem skladowym Bujinkanu.. wiec dlaczego mowa o ninjutsu ?? nie rozumiem tego.. dokladnie mam na mysli to:

Bujinkan - elementy ninjutsu :
Togakure Ryu
Gikan Ryu
Gyokushin Ryu

18 sztuk ninjutsu:
SEISHIN TEKKI KYOYO - spiritual refinement;
TAI JUTSU - unarmed combat;
NINJA KENJUTSU - ninja swordsmanship;
BO JUTSU - stick fighting;
SHURIKEN JUTSU - throwing blades;
YARI JUTSU - spear fighting;
NAGINATA JUTSU - halberd fighting;
KUSARIGAMA JUTSU - chain and sickle weapon;
KAYAKU JUTSU - fire and explosives;
HENSO JUTSU - disguise and impersonation;
SHINOBI IRI - stealth and entering methods;
BA JUTSU - horsemanship;
SUI REN - water training;
BO RYAKU - strategy;
CHO HO - espionage;
INTON JUTSU - escape and concealment;
TEN MON - meteorology;
CHI MON - geography.

Druga sprawa to ze juz naprawde stracilem pojecie... czy ten Bujinkan koncentruje sie na broniach czy walce wrecz ??? Z tego co czytalem ogolnie o ninjutsu - walka wrecz wyglada bardzo ciekawie.Polega na odpowienim opanowaniu uzycia sily przeciwnika, prezcyzji oraz predkosci.Jak sie do tego ma Bujinkan ? CO ZAWIERA BUJINKAN ? Czy np chodzac na zajecia Bujinkanu mam sie spoedziewac ciaglego machania kijem swistania katana i rzucania shurikenow czy tez wiecej przerzutow kopniec uderzen itp ???
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czy ten Bujinkan koncentruje sie na broniach czy walce wrecz ??? Z tego co czytalem ogolnie o ninjutsu - walka wrecz wyglada bardzo ciekawie.Polega na odpowienim opanowaniu uzycia sily przeciwnika, prezcyzji oraz predkosci.Jak sie do tego ma Bujinkan ? CO ZAWIERA BUJINKAN ? Czy np chodzac na zajecia Bujinkanu mam sie spoedziewac ciaglego machania kijem swistania katana i rzucania shurikenow czy tez wiecej przerzutow kopniec uderzen itp ???


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Bujinkan-w Bujinkanie nie koncentrujemy się na szpiegowstwie , tak jak to miało miejsce w dawnych czasach.Najpierw poznajesz Tai jutsu ...sposoby techniki walki bez broni...bez tego nie nauczysz się walki bronią .Czyli na początku poznacie walkę bez broni, sposoby poruszania sie itp.nastepnie zaczniecie sie uczyc wykorzystwania broni np.na początku nauczy się walczyc mieczem , kijem , shaken i shurikan , nozem.
To są podstawy później dojdą inne bronie .Bujinkan kocentruje sie na walce wręcz ale jeśli masz dobre Tai jutsu (walka wręcz ) poznajesz techniki walki bronią ..czyli jakby walka wręcz jest podstawą do walki z użyciem broni(chodzi tu o sposób poruszania sie).Co do 18 sztuk ninjutsu to one są jakoby zawarte w Bujinkanie ...tyle że meterologi i geografi juz sie nie naucza :-) a te 18 sztuka to poprostu podział ...w mniej więcej takiej kolejności się uczysz najpierw tai jutsu później reszta....albo jeszcze inaczej to są umiejętności które poznasz .
aha jeszcze jeden przykład
Tai jutsu dzieli się na Dakenjutsu(pisownie pewnie skopałem)i Jujutsu(Jutajusu albo jakoś tak) oraz Taihen jutsu .
Daken taijutsu opiera się głównie na uderzeniach ale posiada także rzuty dźwignie itp.natomiast to Jutaijutsu opiera się na obaleniach ,rzutach dźwigniach a dopiero później na uderzeniach.Taihen jutsu to przewroty pady itp. i to znajduje sie w Dakenjutsu i Jutaijutsu.
np.Togakure Ryu to dakentaijutsu opiera się głownie na uderzeniach ,ale ma także rzuty .natomiast Takagi Yoshin Ryu opiera się na rzutach i dźwigniach co zresztą widać w Ryu Ha Kata , i w waza obydwóch szkół.
hmm..nie wiem co jeszcze dodać ...pytajcie dalej
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Ok.. to juz nieco jasniej :) z Twojego postu wynika ze cwiczysz Bujinkan.. moglbys mi zatem powiedziec ile czasu mniej wiecej poswieca sie na opanowanie Taijutsu ? Chodzi o to zeby tym jako-tako wladac..
Ciekawi mnie tez w jakim stopniu Buijnkan sklada sie z technik uzycia broni a w jakim stopniu z technik recznych ? Mam na mysli cos w rodzaju procentowosci np. 20% wszystkich zalozen odnosnie walki wrecz a 80% walki bronia... :-)
Pytam tak szczegolowo o techniki reczne bo praktycznie tylko ta czesc Bujinkanu mnie interesuje.. umiejetnosc wladania bronmi na pewno jest czyms ciekawym ale mimo wszystko wole trenowac uzycie ciala a nie np katany ;)
Mam w zwyczaju porownywac techniki roznych MA poprzez ogladanie konfrontacji badz tez pokazow z cwiczen :) na temat Bujinkanu trudno cokolwiek znalezc wiec powiedz mi do czego bys "przypasowal" Bujinkan jesli chodzi o techniki reczne ? Do jakiej innej sztuki walki najpodobniejszy jest Bujinkan ?

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OSTRZEŻENIE DŁUGI POST!!!!
hmm....naprawde ciężko jest odpowiedzieć :) łatwiej było by Ci to jakoś pokazać.....np. w GoGyo no kata ostatnia postawa wygląda tak :
Dołączona grafika
a tak wygląda ostatnie stadium przy cięciu (dokładniej chodzi tu o dobywanie miecza)
Dołączona grafika jak widzisz plecy i "tylna" noga są w lini prostej , kolano nad palcami ...Bujinkan nie jest sztuką walki ..to organizacja która zawiera 9 tradycji - tak to należy nazywać . Każda tradycja rózni się czymś od innych ....ale hmmmm..porównanie do innych sztuk walki ?ok spróbuje :-)
Gyokko Ryu ma swoje źródła w Chinach (bodajże chiński boks albo coś innego nie wiem dokładnie) ale rózni się założeniami oraz technikami .
co do technik ręcznych w GR są one szybkie, student porusza się pod kątem 45 stopni(jedna z podstawowych założeń kosshi jutsu )
Togakure Ryu długie niskie pozycje ,założenia kosshi i koppo jutsu, pochodzi od Gyokko .
żeby jako tako władać Tai jutsu potrzeba około roku ....oczywiście zależy od shidoshi oraz ryu (szkoły)i twojego talentu. Mi Tai jutsu uratowało kilka raz tyłek :twisted: .hmmm może to Ci trochę pomoze w twoich porównywaniach
Essence of Taijutsu
An essay by Hatsumi-sensei.
(translated by Stephen K. and Rumiko Hayes)


Taijutusu, literally translated as “skill with the body,” forms the basis for all understanding in the fighting arts of the ninja. By concentrating on developing natural responsive actions with the body during initial ninja training, one can then use the physical lessons as models for psychological and tactical training in advanced studies. The ninja’s taijutsu is made up of methods for striking and grappling in unarmed fighting, tumbling and breaking falls, leaping and climbing, conditioning the body and maintaining health, as well as special ways of walking and running.
Some of the more popular Oriental martial arts and training systems attempt to mold the practitioner’s ways of reacting and moving to fit a styliized set of predetermined movements. In effect, they are “adding to” the student’s total personality. The taijutsu of Togakure ryu ninjutsu works in the opposite manner to naturalize all movements by stripping away the awkward or unnatural tendencies that may have been picked up unknowingly over the years.
As a fighting system, taijutsu relies on natural body strength and resiliency, speed of response and movement, and an understanding of the principles of nature for successful results in self-protection. The techniques take advantage of natural employment of body dynamics. The students need not imitate some sort of animal, nor distort or deform the natural body structure, in order to emply the taijutsu techniques for self-defense.
The principles of taijutsu also provide the foundation for combat with weapons in ninjutsu. The loose, adaptive body postures and movements readily fit the fighting tools employed in the ninja’s art. Footwork, body balance, speed, energy application and strategy are identical for practitioners of ninjutsu, whehter fighing with fists, blades or chains.
The effectiveness of taijutsu as a total fighting system is based on the ninja’s reliance on the harmony inherent in nature. Even the fundamental fighting postures and techniques model themselves after the manifestations of the elements in our environment; and the advanced training methods use the balances of the psychological as well as the physical ways.
The five physical elemental manifestations of the physical universe are the classifications of solid, liquid, combustious, gaseous and sub-atomic potential, which are the chi (earth), sui(water), ka(fire), fu (wind) and ku (emptiness) of Oriental metaphysics. By increasing our observation and awareness of the interrelationships of these various levels of reality, we can develop the ability to see vast patterns of cause and effect that are unrecognized by other people around us. In this sense the practitioner of ninjutsu learns to use the natural progression of the universal cycles, and his body and intentions always adapt to the advances of any attacker. By coming into attunement with the scheme of totality, the ninja always knows the appropriate response for any given situation that confronts him.


Ninjutsu Hiketsu Bun

An essay by Takamatsu-sensei

The essence of all Martial Arts and military strategies is self protection and the prevention of danger. Ninjutsu epitomizes the fullest concept of self-protection through martial training in that the ninja art deals with the protection of not only the physical body, but the mind and spirit as well. The way of the ninja is the way of enduring, surviving, and prevailing over all that would destroy one. More than merely delivering strikes and slashes, and deeper in significanse than the simple out-witting of an enemy; ninjutsu is the way off attaining that which we need while making the world a better place.
The skill of the ninja is the art of winning. In the beginning study of any combative art, proper motivation is crucial. Without the proper frame of mind, continous exposure to fighting techniques can lead to ruin instead of self-development. But this fact is not different from any other beneficial practice in life carried to extremes.
Medical science is dedicated to the betterment of health and the relief of suffering, and yet the misuse of drugs and the exultation of the physician’s skills can lead people to a state where an individual’s health is no longer within his or her personal control. A nutritious well-balanced diet works to keep a person alive, vital, and healthy, but grossly over-eating, over-drinking, or taking in too many chemicals is a sure way to poison the body.
Governments are established to oversee the harmonious inter-working of all parts of society, but when the rulers become greedy, hungry for power, or lacking in wisdom, the country is subjected to needless wars, disorder or civil and economic chaos.
A religion, when based on faith developed through experience, a broad and questing mind, and unflagging pursuit of universal understanding, is of inspiration and comfort to people. Once a religion loses its original focus, however, it becomes a deadly thing with which to deceive, control and tax the people through the manipulation of their beliefs and fears.
It is the same with the martial arts. The skills of self-protection, which should provide a feeling of inner peace and security for the martial artist, so often develop without a balance in the personality and lead the lesser martial artist into warped realms of unceasing conflict and competition which eventually consume him.
If an expert in the fighting arts sincerely pursues the essence of ninjutsu, devoid of the influence of the ego’s desires, the student will progressively come to realize the ultimate secret for becoming invincible – the attainment of the “mind and eyes of god.” The combatant who would win must be in harmony with the scheme of totality, and must be guided by an intuitive knowledge of the playing out of fate.
In tune with the providence of heaven and the impartial justice of nature, and following a clear and pure heart full of trust in the inevitable, the ninja captures the insight that will guide him successfully into battle when he must conquer and conceal himself protectively from hostility when he must acquiesce.
The vast universe, beautiful in its coldly impersonal totality, contains all that we call good or bad, all the answers for all the paradoxes we see around us. By opening his eyes and his mind, the Ninja can responsively follow the subtle seasons and reasons of heaven, changing just as change is necessary, adapting always, so that in the end there is no such thing as a surprise for the ninja.
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oto historia Gyokko ryu
According to Kuden, the verbal tradition in Gyokko ryu, the system was developed in China during Tang-dynasty. There are two possible origins. Either there was a guard at the palace who developed the system after his small body, or it was developed by a princess. This is in accordance to the system of movement, which implies that it was developed by a physically smaller person.
According to another source, a famous musician and authority on the history of music by the name of Mr. An of Xian in China, there was a woman by the court in Xian (which was the main residence of Tang-dynasty), who was very famous for her skills in dancing and martial arts. By the fall of Tang-dynasty, year 907, many people of high stations in society escaped from China to Japan. The name that is connected to the origin of Gyokko ryu in Japan is Yo (or Cho) Gyokko. It could have been introduced by a single person, but it also might have been a whole group.

The first formal grandmaster in Japan was Hakuunsai Tozawa, who appeared some time during the period of Hogen (1156-1159). How he got the title, and how he got knowledge of the system is unknown. But Gyokko ryu, which means "Jewel Tiger", is according to Dai Nippon Bugei Ryu Ha one of the oldest documented martial arts in Japan.

The system was brought on and kept alive during Kamakura, Nambuko and Muromachi period, by the Suzuki family. In the 16th century it came to the Sakagami family, and between 1532 and 1555, the methods were organized by Sakagami Taro Kuniushige, who called the system Gyokko ryu Shitojutsu. The next supposed grandmaster, Sakagami Kotaro Masahide, was killed in battle 1542. Because of this, the title was passed on to Sougyoku Kan Ritsushi (also known as Gyokkan Ritsushi). Sakagami Kotaro Masahide was also known as Bando Kotaro Minamoto Masahide, and he was supposed to be the grandmaster of Koto ryu koppojutsu as well. He was never registered in Koto ryu, and his name is only mentioned in some of the lists of Gyokko ryu grandmasters.

Sougyoku Kan Ritsushi, who either came from the Kishu area or belonged to Kishu ryu, renamed Gyokko ryu Shitojutsu to Gyokko ryu Koshijutsu. He had some students who, in the 18th century, founded different schools based on Gyokko ryu and knowledge from Sougyoku.

| Gyokushin ryu
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> Sasaki Gendayu Sadayasu
| Sasaki Goemon Teruyori 1716-1736
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| Toda Shinryuken Masamitsu
| Takamatsu Toshitsugu
| Hatsumi Masaaki
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> Suzuki Taizen Taro Konomasa
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| | Izumo ryu koppo
| | Fukao Tsunouma Shigeyoshi
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> Aikimoto Kanai Moriyoshi
| Usho Bankan Yoshikanbo
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| Ishitani Matsutaro Takagage
| Takamatsu Toshitsugu
| Hatsumi Masaaki

In spite of the fact that two of the schools founded by Sougyoku Kan Ritsushis students went on to Takamatsu Toshitsugu and Hatsumi Masaaki, Gyokko ryu went it's own way along with Koto ryu. The schools went to Toda Sakyo Ishinsai and Momochi Sandayu I. After that, the schools remained in the Toda and Momochi families until Takamatsu, who was the last of the Todas to learn the arts, passed the schools to Hatsumi Masaaki.

It is thanks to the Toda and Momochi families' activities in the Iga province that the schools has come to belong to the local ninjutsu tradition, despite that the schools themselves were not really ninjutsu. Another connection in history is that Toda Shinryuken Masamitsu, Takamatsu's teacher and uncle, is said to be a descendant of Hakuunsai Tozawa's.

Toda Shinryuken Masamitsu taught Takamatsu that the most important thing is to study the techniques of Kihon Kata, also known as Kihon Happo, since they are the basis of all martial arts. This means that Kihon Happo covers all methods that are effective in real combat such as blocks, punches, kicks, breaking of wrists and elbows, and throws. The methods of Gyokko ryu are based on Koshijutsu (attacks against soft parts of the body). The strategy differs therefore very much from for example Koppojutsu, which concentrates on the bone structure.

While Koppojutsu motions goes in and out to come at right angles to the joints, Koshijutsu moves sideways, or around the attack, to get close to Kyoshi (the weak parts of the body). These targets can be nerve points, but also inner organs, or muscles and where the muscles are attached. One of the reasons for this system is probably because it was developed by a small person. The power in the counterattacks is therefore not generated by muscles, but by the hips and the spine. This is shown for example by the way of blocking, which concentrates on a powerful block to break the opponents balance, and thereby reaching the weak points of the body. An important detail in order to move close to the opponent, is that the back hand is always held in front of the face as a guard against counterattacks.

A frequently used body weapon in Gyokko ryu are the fingers and the fingertips. This is the reason for the earlier name Shitojutsu, which means techniques with the fingertips. Shitoken, also known as Boshiken, is the most common finger strike. This is a strike with the tip of the thumb, most often against where the muscles are attached or nerve points. The bone by the wrist is also a weapon, which is used for blocking, hits against Kasumi (the temple), etc. Another way of hitting is to push the knuckle of the middle finger in front of the other knuckles in a modified Shikanken. It is not only Boshiken that has another name in Gyokko ryu. Shutoken is called Kitenken, for example.

The thumbs are important in Gyokko ryu. It is mostly shown in the three official stances: Ichimonji no kamae, Hicho no kamae, and Jumonji no kamae, where the thumbs always are directed upwards. The reason is that the energy always should flow freely, and there should be no lockups in the movement. In Gyokko ryu it is important to protect the heart. Therefore a starting position with the right leg forward is preferred, so that the left side is turned away from the opponent. Shoshin no kamae, Doko no kamae - "Angry tiger", and Hanin no kamae are also said to belong to Gyokko ryu.

Gyokko ryu consists of several parts. First there is Kamae no kata (stances) and Taihen Kihon (falls). The next step is Ki kata, also known as Sanshin no kata. Ki kata teaches basic movements based on the five elements. These movements reoccur in all techniques in Gyokko ryu. After that comes Kihon kata and Toride Kihon kata, which are basic exercises for punches, kicks, blocks, grabs and throws. There are different statements on how many the exercises are, and which exercises that belongs. Usually there are three exercises for punches, kicks and blocks, and five or six for grabs and throws. The last are trained from both sides.

After all these basic exercises, you come to Koshijutsu. Koshijutsu is split in three main parts:

Joryaku no maki - Unarmed vs Unarmed Churyaku no maki - Unarmed vs Tanto or Kodachi Geryaku no maki - Unarmed vs Ken or Yari

Mutodori from Geryaku no maki are techniques against sword or spear and is considered to be the highest, and most difficult level of Gyokko ryu.

Katana, Tanto and Bo. Except for some techniques with Bo, very much of this is unknown. More of this will probably be known, however, since Hatsumi Masaaki is releasing more information on the subject.

Even though Gyokko ryu can not claim to be a ninjutsu school, due to the lack of philosophy among other things, there is one saying that has followed the school: "Bushigokoro wo motte totoshi no nasu", which means "The heart of a warrior is precious and essential".


Jutaijutsu teaches grappling with the opponent, as well as throwing, joint locking, choking, and escaping from these when your opponent applies them to you.

In Jutaijutsu the throws differ from judo and aikido in the fact that the throws are performed in a manner which makes breakfalling awkward or impossible for the adversary. The reason for this is to inflict the most possible damage through the throw, thus preventing the attacker from coming after you. Throws in Jutaijutsu involve attacking balance points and relying on form and momentum as opposed to muscling a person down to the ground.

Joint locks are usually used to immobolize and control an attacker. When practicing joint locks it is important to practice changing from one to another. By this I mean going from one lock to another so that if your initial attempt fails you, you don't stay stuck with what you first tried. When dealing with opponents stronger than you it is crucial to soften the attacker (with a punch, kick etc..) before attempting joint locks or he will resist using his strength. When learning these techniques take the time to find make them work without forcing or muscling the techniques. Doron Navon Shihan once told us that if we do the techniques with force and strength alone we will only be able to fight a person as strong as we are.

In throwing, too, it is important to practice going from one throw to another. Fluidity in technique and letting go of what doesn't work can save your life.

Remember, throws and locks are not separate entities. For example, many a time a lock is used to assist in throwing or a lock can be used to immobilize an attacker after throwing him on the ground. You should also practice going from throws to locks to chokes and vice versa in many different combinations.

Choking is also a part of Jutaijutsu you should also add to your training. Practice the various types of chokes and then practice them together with your throws and locks. There are two main types of chokes:


Chokes applied directly on to the windpipe.Chokes applied on the arteries of the neck.
Be careful in your practice of chokes with your partner. Allow them to tap out and release the pressure on their throats. Blood chokes (those applied to the arteries of the neck) aren't very painful but cut off the blood flow to the brain. Your partner may get dizzy or brown-out if you hold on to these chokes for too long.

Do not forget to also practice escaping from throws, locks and chokes. Practice with a partner and let him attack you whether it be a choke, throw, or lock and find various counters to each of his techniques. In order to make the training realistic your partner should not stop his technique if your counter doesn't really work and you must do your counters in a manner which will make your partner feel that they work.

We must practice many forms of throws, locks, and chokes but remember that we are not doing it in order to memorize a certain number of techniques but rather to get a feel of Jutaijutsu and an understanding of the principles that lie behind the techniques.

Now that we have discussed the three main parts of Taijutsu I must state again that the three parts are not separate entities; all three put together make Taijutsu an effective means of self protection. You should not even think of them as separate things there is only the whole. I will try to illustrate this with the following example:

Your adversary attacks you with a punch. You block his punch and he continues with a kick which you dodge by leaping back and you immediately strike your adversary stepping forward. You now grab the stunned attacker and throw him to the ground. Now you attempt to immobilize him but he slips out of your grip and kicks out at you. You quickly roll away from his attack and get up ready to continue.

As we see, all three aspects are a whole used together. You shouldn't think of them as separate and the blending of the components should come naturally. Finally, I'd like to say that we all have to go out and train. For only through training hard will we come to grasp the true feeling of Ninjutsu.


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This time I will talk on the subject of Dakentaijutsu or striking, blocking and kicking methods. Dakentaijutsu is made up of two distinct disciplines:


Koshijutsu- attacking muscle groups and nerve centers on opponent's body. Relies heavily on the use of fingers, toes and thumbs for stabbing strikes and ripping and tearing at the flesh.

Koppojutsu- bone damaging strikes, utilizing bottoms of feet, clenched fists, knees and elbows to attack and break bone structures in enemy's body.
There are many different ways of using the body weapons for employing Dakentaijutsu skills. You should utilize different strikes for attacking different targets on your opponent's body. For example, if you want to attack an enemy's soft spots, such as the armpit, you can use finger strikes and toe drives. If you want to attack a hard target you can use a foot stomp or clenched fist.

Here is a partial list of body weapons:


Fudoken: "Immovable" or clenched fist
Shikanken: Extended knuckle fist
Kitanken/Shuto: Open hand strike
Happoken: "Eight leaf" fist or slapping strikes
Shakoken: Claw fist strike
Shitanken: Thumb pressure strike
Shishiken: "Finger needle" strike
Shitoken/Boshiken: Thumb strike
Koppoken: Thumb knuckle strike
Shukiken: Elbow strike
Sokuyaku: Foot or heel strike
Sokkiken: Knee strike
Kikakuken: Head strike
Shizenken: "Natural" or body weapon
Taiken: "Total body" weapon
You should practice using the body weapons in various kata. Practice blocking with various body weapons as well as striking with different body weapons. Also practice all possible footwork for delivering the blocks and strikes.

In Dakentaijutsu the whole body is used to generate the power and strength for the various strikes and blocks. When you strike, strike through the target using the power of your whole body behind the attack.

When practicing Dakentaijutsu skills it is not enough to strike an object like a tree or punching bag. You should train with a partner as well to get a feel of what it's like to strike different targets on the human body. You should also train with your partner moving around because a real opponent won't stay in one place. Be careful though, and don't perform dangerous strikes to the head or chest at full force.

A small contraption that can help you practice attacking specific targets with precision can be made by taking a tennis ball and attaching it to a length of elastic. Hang it up and practice striking it, the ball should bob up and down and from side to side because of the elastic.

It is important to practice Dakentaijutsu skills so you learn how to block and strike effectively. Along with Jutaijutsu and Taihenjutsu, these skills form a powerful and effective base for your ninpo taijutsu.

Alon Adika has been practicing ninjutsu since 1987. He lives in Jerusalem, Israel and may be contacted at [link widoczny dla zalogowanych Użytkowników] .



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DAKENTAIJUTSU VS. JUTAIJUTSU - AN IN DEPTH LOOK...
Jeff Mueller

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Dakentaijutsu and Jutaijutsu are two terms that are used frequently in the Bujinkan today, but many times they are misinterpreted...
These two terms are usually referred to as "Striking method" (Dakentaijutsu) and "Grappling method" (Jutaijutsu). In the realm of simple answers these definitions hold true, outside of that realm in the world of analytical answers those definitions break down. Dakentaijutsu is a way of dealing with an attack, just as Jutaijutsu is. It doesn't matter what the attack is. This is the first misconception many people have, Dakentaijutsu principles have nothing to do with the attack itself, and neither do the Jutaijutsu principles. The difference in the two is how you deal with the attack, no matter what it is. Let's look at methodology now...

Dakentaijutsu can be explained using the word "overkill." You hit the opponent until he falls down, then you hit him while he's falling, and probably after he's on the ground in front of you also. It is the art of destroying what stands before you using your striking skills. The strikes are used on many occasions to remove the opponent's balance as well. Now here's the problem people have with the definitions, and where those simple one's break down. Dakentaijutsu contains many throws as well! Many of the throws we do are found in our systems of Dakentaijutsu. It's all in the way the throw is done.

Jutaijutsu contains methods of striking, as well as throwing. The biggest point behind the Jutaijutsu method is the uke cannot take proper ukemi. You still hit the opponent, but you let the ground do most of the work for you. Let the damage from the technique come from the uke trying to take ukemi, in which case he rips or breaks whatever joints you are controlling, or let him save those joints and hit the ground hard, breaking or damaging whatever just hit.

To recap, Dakentaijutsu doesn't mean the uke punches or kicks as an attack. It doesn't mean you don't throw him. It means you beat him senseless allowing your body to do most of the work. Jutaijutsu doesn't mean the uke grabs you as an attack. It doesn't mean you don't hit him. It means you throw him in such a manner that ukemi isn't possible, allowing the ground to do most of the work for you. I hope this clears some things up for you...


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no chyba wykasowalem nadwyzke o ile jeszcze nie cos ? ;)
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Dzieki Tygrys! O to mi chodzilo zeby poznac troche strony technicznej zeby miec koncepcje jak to moze wygladac :-) jak bede mial okazje zobaczyc Buijnkan w akcji to na pewno z niej skorzystam :wink:

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Tygrys a gdzie ty trenujesz? Mozesz odpowiedziec e-mailem...
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Kolega z Bydgoszczy zapytal o Bujinkan. Masz racje ze Bujinkan nie powinien byc utozsamiany z ninjutsu - tylko trzy szkoly zachowaly sie w rodzinie Toda i tylko jedna z nich zawiera techniki walki. Tak po krotce:

Koto Ryu - Koto ryu jest tak zwanym "twardym" systemem walki - specjalizujacym sie w koppojutsu - bardzo zblizonym do karate i uczonym wraz z Gyokko Ryu (starsza forma walki) ktora specjalizuje sie w kosshijutsu czyli w atakach na czule miejsca.
Takagi Yoshin Ryu - jest szkola ochraniarzy szoguna i specjalizuje sie w jutaijutsu i znalazla sie w rodzinie Toda gdy jeden z Toda zostal tej szkoly Soke
Kukishinden Ryu - jest typowa szkola samurajska - duzo w niej broni, ale takze starego dobrego dakentaijutsu i jujutsu - byla odziedziczona przez ostatniego z rodziny Toda.
Shindenfudo Ryu - szkola spokrewniona z Gyokko ryu - bardziej ezoteryczna - religijne powiazanie z Yamabushi i Tendai Buddyzmem.
Gikan Ryu - Gikan byl przeznaczony tylko i wylacznie dla Soke rodu - uczyl technik przeciwko wszystim szkolom uczonym w klanie cos w rodzaju super stylu... wciaz jest cwiczony tylko i wylacznie w bardzo malym gronie tych najblizej Soke Hatsumiego.


- 3 elementów ninjutsu, czyli:
Togakure Ryu - chyba najbardziej znany styl ninjutsu - z bardzo niewielkim assortymentem technik (reszta cwiczona wszedzie to Gyokko Ryu :) ) - Togakure ryu jest bardziej interpretacja walki - gdzie walka ma byc blyskawiczna i masz wyjsc z niej calo - albo najlepiej nie walczyc w ogole - uzywajac trikow i sztuczek.
Kumogakure Ryu - teoria szpiegostwa i fortyfikacji, szkola przetrwania, alchemia i magia.
Gyokushin Ryu - niewiele jest wiadomo o tej szkole - zachwaly sie tylko zwoje - nikt w niej nie cwiczy podobnie jak Kumogakure - teoria.
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Pytacie o to co uczy sie w Bujinkan - Bujinkan jest typowym przykladem KoRyu - gdzie uczysz sie sztuki wojennej - walki przeznaczonej na pola bitwy - wszystkie Koryu style ucza sie walki bronia i takze walki bez broni... czyli starasz sie byc wszechstronny. To tak jak we wspolczesnym wojsku - nie uczysz sie tylko i wylacznie strzelania z karabinu :!: Bujinkan-u tradycje maja wszystkie elementy KoRyu i odrobine wiecej poniewaz w pewnym momencie klan toda byl wywlaszczony z ich ziemi i musieli walczyc z ukrycia - jako polacy jestescie w stanie swietnie zrozumiec ten koncept - Ninjutsu to nic innego jak partyzantka. Walka z ukrycia - uzywajac takiej samej broni i rodzaju walki ale z zupelnie innej perspektywy... Przewaga armii Nobunaga byla tak duza ze po pierwszej bitwie Iga i Koga klany musialy uciec w gory i stamtad zaczac ponad 100 letnia walke partyzancka... Oczywiscie w czasach Tokugawa Toda klan i inne klany Iga i Koga zostaly przywrucone do hierarchi spolecznej udostepniajac tym samym wdrozenie ich nowych sposobow walki do asortymentu wojennego Japonii - od 16 wieku ninjutsu bylo tym czym oddzialy specjalne sa teraz - typu zielone berety. Walka na zapleczu wroga, szpiegostwo, etc. Niestety to bardzo zmienilo koncept ninjutsu - szkoly przetrwania (shinobi) i tradycyjne ninpo przetrwalo tylko w nielicznych stylach Koryu. Takich jak: Togakure Ryu czy tez Katori Shinto Ryu... Mam nadzieje ze to pomoze rozjasnic troche to czym jest Bujinkan.
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Tokugawa dobrze kombinowal ;)
Aby nie miec wrogow zatrudnij ich do policji ;)
Wpelni sie ich nadzoruje a i oni czuja sie dowartosciowani ;)
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Ciekawe jest takze to ze Tokugawa zmienil uklad feudalny i przetasowal posiadlosci ziemskie na wlasny styl - jak najblizej siebie zgromadzil rodzine - potem sprzymierzencow - a no koncu tych krorzy mu sie poddali... Co do Iga i Koga rodow ktore przywrocil do lask - oni nigdy nie odzyskali swoich ziem...
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Rewelacja - Polacy maja mozliwosc trenowania w Czechach prawie co tydzien - wszyscy zainteresowani Bujinkan powinni sie wybrac na polodnie do naszych sasiadow... Tygrys u kogo cwiczysz?


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Chcialem podziekowac Szymonowi Charkiewiczowi za na doglebne naswietlenie sytuacji Bujinkanu w Polsce w prywatnym e-mailu do mnie - szkoda ze Szymon nie udziela sie na tym forum bo jest on istna studnia wiedzy na temat ninjutsu i historii Japonii - pisze prace dyplomowa z tej dziedziny - mam nadzieje ze wpadnie ona w moje rece.
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